[E-devel] any plans to add to efm virtual filesystem support api

[Vasiliy Tolstov]

I want to able to connect to remote ftp/webdav/mtp/ssh servers via efm.
kde and gnome have abstraction layer and api. So i easy can add
support for any fs.
How much work needed for this and do you have plans for this?

[Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)]

Post by Vasiliy Tolstov
I want to able to connect to remote ftp/webdav/mtp/ssh servers via efm.
kde and gnome have abstraction layer and api. So i easy can add
support for any fs.
How much work needed for this and do you have plans for this?

no plans. lots of work. the only thing i think that is a good solution is to
actually have a mountable fs (fuse or something similar) do this so efm and
everything deals with a real fs.

[William L. Thomson Jr.]

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:24:58 +0900

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 16:50:47 +0300 Vasiliy Tolstov

Post by Vasiliy Tolstov
I want to able to connect to remote ftp/webdav/mtp/ssh servers via
efm. kde and gnome have abstraction layer and api. So i easy can add
support for any fs.
How much work needed for this and do you have plans for this?

no plans. lots of work. the only thing i think that is a good
solution is to actually have a mountable fs (fuse or something
similar) do this so efm and everything deals with a real fs.

Or maybe an app like gftp that can handle ftp and ssh, and maybe add
mtp support, since its similar operation. Could do with efm, but need
ideally dual pane, local/remote. Which would require a change to efm
UI. Pretty sure it does not have pane support now. Two file browsers in
same window.

Maybe something to add to the EFL Apps ToDo
https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/efl_apps_todo/

Not sure about others, but on KDE/Plasma, the MTP support was horrible.
So bad I used adb pull/push to get images and media off my Android
devices. I looked at a QT based MTP app, it was ok. Haven't checked out
new version. Moving away from QT stuff, so likely remove it from my
overlay.

https://github.com/whoozle/android-file-transfer-linux
https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/os-xtoo/tree/master/net-misc/android-file-transfer-linux

MTP seems to be a horrible protocol and has never been very reliable. I
could see a slew of bugs if adding such support efm.

Not sure if verne has plans for any of this stuff, or has it already.
https://github.com/marcelhollerbach/verne

[Stephen Houston]

I really like the phab app today page, start a different email thread on
both dev and users list with that link and ask for ideas and let's see the
responses.

Post by William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:24:58 +0900

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 16:50:47 +0300 Vasiliy Tolstov

Post by Vasiliy Tolstov
I want to able to connect to remote ftp/webdav/mtp/ssh servers via
efm. kde and gnome have abstraction layer and api. So i easy can add
support for any fs.
How much work needed for this and do you have plans for this?

no plans. lots of work. the only thing i think that is a good
solution is to actually have a mountable fs (fuse or something
similar) do this so efm and everything deals with a real fs.

Or maybe an app like gftp that can handle ftp and ssh, and maybe add
mtp support, since its similar operation. Could do with efm, but need
ideally dual pane, local/remote. Which would require a change to efm
UI. Pretty sure it does not have pane support now. Two file browsers in
same window.
Maybe something to add to the EFL Apps ToDo
https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/efl_apps_todo/
Not sure about others, but on KDE/Plasma, the MTP support was horrible.
So bad I used adb pull/push to get images and media off my Android
devices. I looked at a QT based MTP app, it was ok. Haven't checked out
new version. Moving away from QT stuff, so likely remove it from my
overlay.
https://github.com/whoozle/android-file-transfer-linux
https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/os-xtoo/tree/master/net-misc/android-file-transfer-linux
MTP seems to be a horrible protocol and has never been very reliable. I
could see a slew of bugs if adding such support efm.
Not sure if verne has plans for any of this stuff, or has it already.
https://github.com/marcelhollerbach/verne
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[Vasiliy Tolstov]

Post by William L. Thomson Jr.
On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 23:24:58 +0900

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 16:50:47 +0300 Vasiliy Tolstov

Post by Vasiliy Tolstov
I want to able to connect to remote ftp/webdav/mtp/ssh servers via
efm. kde and gnome have abstraction layer and api. So i easy can add
support for any fs.
How much work needed for this and do you have plans for this?

no plans. lots of work. the only thing i think that is a good
solution is to actually have a mountable fs (fuse or something
similar) do this so efm and everything deals with a real fs.

Or maybe an app like gftp that can handle ftp and ssh, and maybe add
mtp support, since its similar operation. Could do with efm, but need
ideally dual pane, local/remote. Which would require a change to efm
UI. Pretty sure it does not have pane support now. Two file browsers in
same window.
Maybe something to add to the EFL Apps ToDo
https://phab.enlightenment.org/w/efl_apps_todo/
Not sure about others, but on KDE/Plasma, the MTP support was horrible.
So bad I used adb pull/push to get images and media off my Android
devices. I looked at a QT based MTP app, it was ok. Haven't checked out
new version. Moving away from QT stuff, so likely remove it from my
overlay.
https://github.com/whoozle/android-file-transfer-linux
https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/os-xtoo/tree/master/net-misc/android-file-transfer-linux
MTP seems to be a horrible protocol and has never been very reliable. I
could see a slew of bugs if adding such support efm.
Not sure if verne has plans for any of this stuff, or has it already.
https://github.com/marcelhollerbach/verne

I don't have any issues with mtp using simple-mtp

[William L. Thomson Jr.]

On Fri, 14 Jul 2017 10:33:04 +0300

Post by Vasiliy Tolstov

Post by William L. Thomson Jr.
https://github.com/whoozle/android-file-transfer-linux
https://github.com/Obsidian-StudiosInc/os-xtoo/tree/master/net-misc/android-file-transfer-linux

I don't have any issues with mtp using simple-mtp

I had decent luck with android-file-transfer-linux, since it did not
use any of the standard libraries the others use. Maybe its an issue
with libptp/libmtp. Does not seem like simple-mtpfs does either.

Assuming this is the simple-mtp you are using.
https://github.com/phatina/simple-mtpfs

[Vasiliy Tolstov]

Post by William L. Thomson Jr.
Not sure if verne has plans for any of this stuff, or has it already.
https://github.com/marcelhollerbach/verne

Interesting app, i'm try to build it

[Boris Faure]

Post by Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)

Post by Vasiliy Tolstov
I want to able to connect to remote ftp/webdav/mtp/ssh servers via efm.
kde and gnome have abstraction layer and api. So i easy can add
support for any fs.
How much work needed for this and do you have plans for this?

no plans. lots of work. the only thing i think that is a good solution is to
actually have a mountable fs (fuse or something similar) do this so efm and
everything deals with a real fs.

I fully agree. There are lots of projects which do that fine with FUSE.
Just build on those. Then you'll have sshfs, mtp-fs, s3fs, 
 for free.

Just wrap libmount correctly and that's it.

(disclaimer: I write filesystems for a living.)

[William L. Thomson Jr.]

On Thu, 13 Jul 2017 18:38:30 +0200

Post by Boris Faure
I fully agree. There are lots of projects which do that fine with
FUSE. Just build on those. Then you'll have sshfs, mtp-fs, s3fs, 

for free.
Just wrap libmount correctly and that's it.
(disclaimer: I write filesystems for a living.)

Which I read as you volunteer to add such support to efm, awesome! :)

[Vasiliy Tolstov]

Hm.. dont know about libmount (go to reading about it =))

Post by Boris Faure

Post by Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)

Post by Vasiliy Tolstov
I want to able to connect to remote ftp/webdav/mtp/ssh servers via efm.
kde and gnome have abstraction layer and api. So i easy can add
support for any fs.
How much work needed for this and do you have plans for this?

no plans. lots of work. the only thing i think that is a good solution is to
actually have a mountable fs (fuse or something similar) do this so efm and
everything deals with a real fs.

I fully agree. There are lots of projects which do that fine with FUSE.
Just build on those. Then you'll have sshfs, mtp-fs, s3fs, … for free.
Just wrap libmount correctly and that's it.
(disclaimer: I write filesystems for a living.)
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[Vasiliy Tolstov]

Post by Carsten Haitzler (The Rasterman)

Post by Vasiliy Tolstov
I want to able to connect to remote ftp/webdav/mtp/ssh servers via efm.
kde and gnome have abstraction layer and api. So i easy can add
support for any fs.
How much work needed for this and do you have plans for this?

no plans. lots of work. the only thing i think that is a good solution is to
actually have a mountable fs (fuse or something similar) do this so efm and
everything deals with a real fs.

This is hard =(