Post by William L. Thomson Jr.On Sat, 6 May 2017 19:59:04 +0100
Post by Al PooleThis is NOT a bug.
It's intended to look like that - vacuum tube clock.
If you have to tell people what it looks like. Its a poor design.
Others have said Neon clock. Though could resemble old LED's where
you could see the lines for other digits.
that's as wrong as can be. so what if it's neon or nixie? they serve the same
purpose - glowing elements used to light up a display. in fact being ambiguous
is kind of neat. the viewer can have their own interpretation. not to mention
the vast majority of icons in a ui are not clear on what they are but they get
the job done. looking at the "junk" icon in sylphed here it looks like it could
be a box with tissues poking out of it, but it's meant to be a paper tray with
scrunched up paper. it doesn't matter. i see another icon that looks more like
a windmill but it's meant to be a rolodex (i've never owned a rolodex but i
happen to ave looked up what they are so i can understand such icons). the
world of visual art is full of ambiguity... and often when it's not crucial to
meaning (which is the case with the clock) it's nice to have artistic license
to do that.
do you want to get into an art discussion? my mother is a professional portrait
artist. she has a university degree in fine arts. i have learned a lot from her
growing up in a house full of art my entire life. my parents have dedicated
rooms to her artwork in their house and there is almost not a wall spare
without some painting on it. i grew up my entire life surrounded by paintings
from realistic to abstract. i myself won the art prize at my school year after
year. i chose to go the computer route as to me software is art coming to life.
but art is something i have spent my life around, if creating it or
manipulating it or observing it and it's creation up close. if you want to
argue artistic interpretation, license, etc. ... i'm all up for that.
but i have learned that people do not have the same TASTE. there is no such
thing as "universally perfect art that everyone loves". beauty is in the eye of
the beholder. tastes change over time with fashion too - some people are more
influenced than others. what you interpret in something artistic often is a
result of your experiences in life and sometimes some small percentage of
people simply lack those experiences to interpret the way it was intended. this
is reality in a world of different cultures and history.
Post by William L. Thomson Jr.Like this
https://www.walmart.com/ip/SmartSet-Radio-Alarm-Clock-LED/33314888
To me It looks nothing like most vacuum tube clocks
https://www.google.com/search?q=vacuum+tube+clock&source=lnms&tbm=isch
it's a simplified version without all the extra tubes, base and so on. it's
slightly stylized to fit in with everything else. like:
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OMG! that looks wrong! cat's aren't blue and brown! they don't have triangles
on their legs! .... it's called artistic licence. i can very well draw
something that looks totally photorealistic. i actually did a clock that was
with glass tubes, mesh wire, and so on ... and i chose a simplified version
like this after trying many alternatives and variations because the more
realistic versions were far too busy. without the unlit digits though it just
was too simple and that was not the intended look.
if you think you an do better. go draw a better one and propose it. please do
so. just removing the base isn't better - been there, done that. i've tried
many variations of look already. perhaps you have one i haven't tried that
people do things looks better and that fits.
saying "oh but i don't have the artistic skills, so someone else do it for me"
is a cop out. go learn those skills then just like you learned to program if
you don't have them. so come up with an alternative you think looks better,
that scales up and down nicely (looks good both small and big) is legible at a
glance, and fits the overall look and feel... then let's all consider that.
Post by William L. Thomson Jr.Maybe like this one, which seems rare.
http://makezine.com/2009/12/25/sweet-vacuum-tube-clock-build/
i considered the "digital led" style and really didn't like how it looked. thus
i went the nixie/neon look.
if the purpose o the theme was to be minimalistic or flat or whatever... then
it'd have a different look.
but if you think you have a better look - come up with one.
but keep in min this is a design/artistic exercise, not one of coding/bugs so
to speak. when films are made there will be a director, artistic lead, or when
games produced the same, and multiple artists will present their ideas and one
get chosen... the others may then go "but mine is better" and some may agree...
but a decision will be made in the interests of the whole piece of work and
it's artistic merit and design. when you have dozens or hundreds of artists
working on a production this is necessary. if you have one artist doing it all
it's easier as this process is done as an individual perhaps with feedback
along the way (and you can bet you the theme got feedback along the way). if
you wish to redo this process ... then come up with new content that is better
than what is there, and better here will be a totally subjective decision in
the end based on opinions from many people and with a good dash of artistic
direction thrown in... :)
Post by William L. Thomson Jr.Having been around since the first PCB prototyping. It is not what
I think of when I think vacuum tubes. Having spent some time around
them. I was there for the start of this company. Not affiliated, but I
saw it come about first hand. Kara and George split years ago. George
was the one who was the driving force. Kara was more technical.
http://www.dehavillandhifi.com/
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